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http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/05/04/yancys-to-move-music-out-capital/comment-page-1/#comment-966 oakcitychirper Tue, 06 May 2008 18:38:04 +0000 http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/05/04/yancys-to-move-music-out-capital/#comment-966 Sound is as much an issue out in the sticks as it is in an urban environment. The only difference is, in the sticks, most sound is natural, whereas in town, it comes mostly from we humanoids. That being said, there are ways to soundproof that are overlooked and taken for granted all the time, new construction or not. Thing is, if we are going to attempt to be green and curb sprawl, urban density is the best option. Which means more noise, and worth an investment to reduce as much as possible, if for sanity's sake alone. It's much cheaper on the front end to do it right (i.e. effectively) than to spend tens of thousands trying to fix it later. I would gladly pay more for a project that uses products like Quiet Rock and sound insulating windows than go nuts listening to everyone else's TV.

Sound is as much an issue out in the sticks as it is in an urban environment. The only difference is, in the sticks, most sound is natural, whereas in town, it comes mostly from we humanoids.

That being said, there are ways to soundproof that are overlooked and taken for granted all the time, new construction or not. Thing is, if we are going to attempt to be green and curb sprawl, urban density is the best option. Which means more noise, and worth an investment to reduce as much as possible, if for sanity’s sake alone. It’s much cheaper on the front end to do it right (i.e. effectively) than to spend tens of thousands trying to fix it later. I would gladly pay more for a project that uses products like Quiet Rock and sound insulating windows than go nuts listening to everyone else’s TV.

http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/05/04/yancys-to-move-music-out-capital/comment-page-1/#comment-957 MTaylorMusic Mon, 05 May 2008 21:52:07 +0000 http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/05/04/yancys-to-move-music-out-capital/#comment-957 Not true about anyone going into Hideaway until it is sold and there are no offers. This is straight from the owner's mouth today.

Not true about anyone going into Hideaway until it is sold and there are no offers. This is straight from the owner’s mouth today.

http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/05/04/yancys-to-move-music-out-capital/comment-page-1/#comment-955 Jerry Mon, 05 May 2008 19:38:21 +0000 http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/05/04/yancys-to-move-music-out-capital/#comment-955 The Problem from the Beginning: This is the heart of downtown, this building design was a joke to begin with (5 stories on prime real estate). City Council should have selected the design from the MA. group (40 stories) years ago (I remember when that plan was presented, EXCELLENT LOOKING BUILDING and IDEA - 1st class building with leading edge technology - city council said "we are not ready for this type of building" - not ready? - we have NC State and RTP around the corner - leading edge technology institutions. The ground retail would have been available, could have the parking deck above (as is RBC Plaza), with the condo's well above the street noise. Another downtown/city council blunder (and they continue to make blunders today, NEVER learning from experience). The music is moving out of the Hudson, what convention goer will drive to hear that music (NOONE WILL!) at a BBQ joint (great idea).

The Problem from the Beginning: This is the heart of downtown, this building design was a joke to begin with (5 stories on prime real estate). City Council should have selected the design from the MA. group (40 stories) years ago (I remember when that plan was presented, EXCELLENT LOOKING BUILDING and IDEA – 1st class building with leading edge technology – city council said “we are not ready for this type of building” – not ready? – we have NC State and RTP around the corner – leading edge technology institutions.

The ground retail would have been available, could have the parking deck above (as is RBC Plaza), with the condo’s well above the street noise.

Another downtown/city council blunder (and they continue to make blunders today, NEVER learning from experience). The music is moving out of the Hudson, what convention goer will drive to hear that music (NOONE WILL!) at a BBQ joint (great idea).

http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/05/04/yancys-to-move-music-out-capital/comment-page-1/#comment-954 Ron T Mon, 05 May 2008 19:10:37 +0000 http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/05/04/yancys-to-move-music-out-capital/#comment-954 Wow Jedidiah it is amazing how having more facts can effect my opinion. Thanks for your post. I usually think of downtown activities as first come, first serve - no jazz clubs popping up in a quiet residential area, no expectations of birds chirping on a commercial block. But if Yancy's was pushing the space with something it was not designed for, I would complain too if I lived in the Hudson. All that aside, I hate to see that space lose the live music.

Wow Jedidiah it is amazing how having more facts can effect my opinion. Thanks for your post. I usually think of downtown activities as first come, first serve – no jazz clubs popping up in a quiet residential area, no expectations of birds chirping on a commercial block. But if Yancy’s was pushing the space with something it was not designed for, I would complain too if I lived in the Hudson. All that aside, I hate to see that space lose the live music.

http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/05/04/yancys-to-move-music-out-capital/comment-page-1/#comment-953 Jedidiah Mon, 05 May 2008 18:28:47 +0000 http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/05/04/yancys-to-move-music-out-capital/#comment-953 FYI, the Hudson (and Yancy's space in particular) was not designed for this type (music) of occupancy. Yancy's went against original code of the space by adding music and attempting to dampen the sound. After the fact doesn't always work when a space was intended otherwise.

FYI, the Hudson (and Yancy’s space in particular) was not designed for this type (music) of occupancy. Yancy’s went against original code of the space by adding music and attempting to dampen the sound. After the fact doesn’t always work when a space was intended otherwise.

http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/05/04/yancys-to-move-music-out-capital/comment-page-1/#comment-949 RaleighRob Mon, 05 May 2008 13:12:26 +0000 http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/05/04/yancys-to-move-music-out-capital/#comment-949 I agree with the other two posts above. This is an odd thing. Even if you do like some (relative) peace and quiet, you can still live in a downtown condo...it just probably wouldn't be the Hudson. I like that RBC Plaza and 510 Glenwood have a thick layer of offices between the condos and the retail/dining level. (Would have been smart for the Hudson to do the same, but probably too late now. But more new buildings should consider that.) Or they could buy condos in buildings like the Dawson or Atrium where you only have a small little pub with little noise. There's room downtown for all types...hate to see Yancy's have to do this to placate just a few.

I agree with the other two posts above. This is an odd thing.
Even if you do like some (relative) peace and quiet, you can still live in a downtown condo…it just probably wouldn’t be the Hudson. I like that RBC Plaza and 510 Glenwood have a thick layer of offices between the condos and the retail/dining level. (Would have been smart for the Hudson to do the same, but probably too late now. But more new buildings should consider that.) Or they could buy condos in buildings like the Dawson or Atrium where you only have a small little pub with little noise.
There’s room downtown for all types…hate to see Yancy’s have to do this to placate just a few.

http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/05/04/yancys-to-move-music-out-capital/comment-page-1/#comment-947 Ernest Mon, 05 May 2008 12:53:54 +0000 http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/05/04/yancys-to-move-music-out-capital/#comment-947 That is an excellent question... Which goes to show that urban living has a price and people should always remember that before buying a condo in the heart of the city. Also, developers should always consider creating a buffer by adding at least one level of office/commercial space between the street-level and the first residential floor. Anyway, I hope the rumor is just a rumor, but given Dana's good sources I am afraid this is not the case.

That is an excellent question… Which goes to show that urban living has a price and people should always remember that before buying a condo in the heart of the city. Also, developers should always consider creating a buffer by adding at least one level of office/commercial space between the street-level and the first residential floor.

Anyway, I hope the rumor is just a rumor, but given Dana’s good sources I am afraid this is not the case.

http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/05/04/yancys-to-move-music-out-capital/comment-page-1/#comment-944 say whaaa? Mon, 05 May 2008 11:28:21 +0000 http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/05/04/yancys-to-move-music-out-capital/#comment-944 if you expect peace and quiet, why choose to live in the middle of the city in overpriced condos??

if you expect peace and quiet, why choose to live in the middle of the city in overpriced condos??